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Missing Crisps


So, I have a bag of Walkers Salt and Vinegar crisps in front of me and the nutritional values are as follows:






                per           per
                36g bag    100g
protein       2.2g          6.5g
carbs         17.3g        50g
fat            11.4g        33.0g
fibre          1.4g          4.0g
sodium       0.3g          0.9g
eq as salt   0.8g          2.3g



Now, I've added them up and got the following totals:


Per 36g bag: 33.4g
Per 100g: 96.7g


If i can take the values of the 100g serving as a percentage, this means that a whopping 3.3% of my crisps are actually missing!


I have a theory...  You know all that dark matter malarkey that scientists have come up with to explain the missing mass in the universe?  Well I reckon I have dark crisps in my bag.  Spooky, huh.  Now I just have to find the Great Attractor...



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Well first of all, you can't do sums!  You've put in both the salt & the sodium, should be a total of 95.8g of stuff per 100g.  I'd suggest the remaining 4.2g is either water or some non-food substance.

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You'd think that, but I've done it right.  The sodium is listed as 0.9g and then there's a separate entry 'equivalent as salt' as 2.3g.
I can tell that the remaining mass is not water as the crisps are quite dry  so it must be a 'non-food substance'.  I'm thinkin' rocks...



-- Edited by ddvmor at 13:59, 2006-04-21

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I have to disagree on the sodium thing Mr Morrissey:  You're wrong.  That'd be like adding total carbohydrates and "carbohydrates: of which sugars".  You're definitely counting the sodium twice.

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Well, I can only tell you what it says on the bag.  The ingredients list salt separately from Monosodium Glutameate, diosodium something or other and sodium diacetate (from which I think I may die).


Either way, the point is that there is missing mass, not the salt content of my lunch 



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Ah yes, but it doesn't say "salt content" does it?  It says "equivalent as salt" ie if all the sodium were from salt then this is how much you'd get.  Ooh, maybe that's it, maybe your crisps contain several grams of glutomate?

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Maybe.


Or maybe it contains several grams of rocks.


Or maybe it contains several grams of non-baryonic matter that cannot be measured cos we can't detect it on account of it only being theoretical and that's why they've chosen to avoid the issue and not list it.



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I have an update for you, anyhow.  I've just e-mailed Walkers with the problem and I'm sure they'll be in touch in due course.  I even have a reference number...

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ddvmor wrote:


You know all that dark matter malarkey that scientists have come up with to explain the missing mass in the universe?  Well I reckon I have dark crisps in my bag.  Spooky, huh.  Now I just have to find the Great Attractor...


Very scary.


The boredome must have been pretty strong in this one!!


If the mass is missing, it was probably converted to energy, as we know:





E=MC˛


So given the displacement in mass, the result in liklihood was energy. Were the crisps in question hotter than they might have been otherwise?


Beware the hot crisps!!!.



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Hmm.  I'm fairly sure that the energy released by a 36g bag of crisps would be pretty devastaing.


Lets see...


36 x 299,792,458˛ = er... lots


On the basis that my fingers weren't instantly incinerated, I prefer my theory. 



-- Edited by ddvmor at 23:54, 2006-04-23

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Are you sure there is no water? Try putting them in the microwave and see if they steam?

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Mmm.


Given Nate's suggestion about conversion to energy, I'm now a bit concerened that microwaving the crisps might cause a devastaing thermonuclear explosion that would wipe bristol off the face of the earth.


Now before you say 'who cares if Bristol is wiped off the face of the earth?' I'd point out that I'm quite attached to my life and would prefer it not to be reduced to atoms just yet...



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ddvmor wrote:


Mmm. Given Nate's suggestion about conversion to energy, I'm now a bit concerened that microwaving the crisps might cause a devastaing thermonuclear explosion that would wipe bristol off the face of the earth. Now before you say 'who cares if Bristol is wiped off the face of the earth?' I'd point out that I'm quite attached to my life and would prefer it not to be reduced to atoms just yet...

Sorry tell me again about the downside?

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The resulting devestation may cause a small piece of shrapnel to slightly scratch the rear nearside bumper of your car.  That's the downside.

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My GOD! - what madness! we MUST prevent this.

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ddvmor wrote:


The resulting devestation may cause a small piece of shrapnel to slightly scratch the rear nearside bumper of your car.

How can taking off your undergarments scratch your bumper (unless you wear a particularly scratchy wool  type! )

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