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There's something not quite right about this...


While I'd never trivialise this sort of issue, when I read this article, something just doesn't quite ring true about it.  Edited highlights follow, although it's probably worth reading the whole thing.






I TURNED MY BACK ON HIM AND HE RAPED ME


A man forced a Bristol woman to have sex with him in her flat, a court heard.

Basil Ferguson turned up at the woman's home and said he needed to dry his wet clothes, Bristol Crown Court was told yesterday. Though she insisted she didn't want to speak with him, she told a jury he forced himself on her.

Ferguson, aged 43, of no fixed address, denies raping the woman in August last year.

The complainant, who cannot be named for legal reasons, said she had known Ferguson in the past and he'd been violent towards her.

The woman said that on a day in August last year, she had spent the day with friends at her flat. Ferguson telephoned and said he wanted to come round to see her.

She told the jury she told him she did not wish to see him but he phoned her again and told her he was on his way round.

The woman said she was so concerned about Ferguson visiting, she had sent her boyfriend away because she was frightened there might be a fight.

She told how Ferguson arrived and was let into the flat by one of her friends.

She said: "He went straight into the bedroom and I followed him there. He had a bag of videos.

"It had been raining and he was soaking wet and agitated."

The woman said she begged Ferguson to leave but he ignored her.

She said Ferguson took his clothes off, climbed into her bed and began watching a movie.

She told the court: "I was getting tired. I thought, if I go to bed and go to sleep, he'll go. I got into bed in my nightshirt and I turned my back on him. I was hoping to go to sleep."

It was then, she said, that Ferguson pinned her down and had sex without her consent.





Hmm.


I don't even know where to begin with the wrongness of this story...



-- Edited by ddvmor at 15:18, 2006-04-20

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Hmm I'm not sure about this one either. And this is NOT saying that "she had it coming" or whatever, but if there is a man who has been violent to you before, who comes in, strips down, and climbs into your bed, why would you put on your nightshirt, and climb into bed with him..... If there was a semi-naked man that I did not want in my bed who wouldn't leave, I woudln't join him.. I'd call the police.

And she had roommates? From the article it doesn't sound like she was alone in the flat with him... she had at least one other person there to help her get him out...Or call back the dismissed boyfriend to come deal with him. Didn't want a fight? You don't get outta my bed there's gonna be a fight.

Something's missing here.

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i think it forgot to mention her mental age of 7

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Who knows the real story but I can say I dont buy her account...


It just doesnt add up...


This does raise the issue of naming the defendant though - found innocent or not, this guys reputation is now tarnished forever... who thinks thats right?




-- Edited by JonnyStead at 19:41, 2006-04-20

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I suspect he has bigger problems than his reputation, mate:





Ferguson, aged 43, of no fixed address


Like being a vagrant, pan-handler?


Erm, what was she thinking on this one?



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NateO wrote:





Like being a vagrant, pan-handler?



Nah.  This type of guy probably isn't a vagrant.  More likely that he's just not registered at an address because he 'moves around', lives with friends and the like to avoid paying anything like tax and to generally 'stick it to the man'.


I can't help thinking that this girl shagged the guy while her boyfriend's back was turned then, when he found out, declared that it was against her will.  When he called her bluff and told her to report it to the police, she did.


These people seem to live in a completely different world to the rest of us...


Aaaaaaanyway... This one might be even stupider.  I was gonna edit it to make it shorter for Katie (cos i know she doen't like reading long stuff ), but then decided not to...






Rape claim


A MAN who claims he mistakenly had sex with "the wrong woman" after entering a dark bedroom at the home of a Sydney magazine editor was yesterday committed to stand trial for rape.


Paul John Chappell, 31, was invited back to the editor's Bondi flat after they met during a night out.


The pair went to bed and Chappell later got up to use the bathroom.


But Chappell claims he mistakenly returned to the wrong bedroom, where the editor's 23-year-old flatmate was asleep.


He got into bed with the flatmate and initiated sex, allegedly believing she was the other woman.


The flatmate participated because she thought it was her own boyfriend who had come to bed after falling asleep in the loungeroom.


When she turned on the light, the "hysterical" woman saw Chappell in her bed and realised her boyfriend was still asleep on the couch.


Chappell intends to plead not guilty to one count of sexual intercourse without consent.


"The defence case is he made a mistake," barrister Wayne Flynn told the Downing Centre Court Local yesterday. "He went into the wrong room and had sex with the wrong person.


"He thought he was having sex with the person he went home with.


"The (alleged victim) says she believed she was having sex with her boyfriend. She made a mistake as to who she was having sex with and so did the defendant."


In a statement to police on the morning of the incident on October 1, the alleged victim said she had gone to bed about 2am, leaving her drunk boyfriend asleep on the lounge.


"The next thing I remember was waking up to someone having sex with me," she said. "I assumed straight away that it was (my boyfriend) because I wouldn't even consider that it would be anyone else."


She also said: "When the light is out, it is black in our bedroom, you can't see anything."


To her dismay, she later turned on the light and realised it was Chappell, not her boyfriend, in the bed.


"I was totally gutted that it was him and not (my boyfriend)," she said. "I went straight into (my flatmate's) bedroom hysterical."


The screaming woman pushed Chappell out the front door shortly before her boyfriend woke up and was told what happened.


"(He) was so beside himself and enraged that he said he was going out to find (Chappell) and kill him," she said.


In her statement to police, the magazine editor said Chappell was "pretty drunk" when they arrived home and they went to her bed but she refused to have sex.


"He got up and went to the toilet," she said.


"After what seemed like five minutes I assumed he had passed out on the lounge or something, so I rolled over and went to sleep. The next thing I remember was (my flatmate) running into my room quite hysterical."


Magistrate Margaret Quinn committed Chappell to stand trial but said it "may well be a difficult case for the prosecution" to prove.


A date for Chappell's trial will be set next week.






-- Edited by ddvmor at 09:19, 2006-04-21

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Completely agree with you there Stead.  It also seems very wrong that the evil bitches who bring false rape charges never get named themselves.  Not only do they trivialise what must be a horrific experience for the real victims, even if the bloke's proved totally innocent he's had to go through a hell of an ordeal himself (possibly destroying various relationships & maybe his career along the way) & in some minds his name will always be linked with it. 

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sha76jam wrote:


Completely agree with you there Stead. 

Wow.  There's a phrase I never thought I'd see in writing...

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ddvmor wrote:


sha76jam wrote: Completely agree with you there Stead.  Wow.  There's a phrase I never thought I'd see in writing...


I'm stunned - make a note of this will you?


And just for the record - for once I didnt have the most extreme view in a thread!



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I read about that one in Sydney too JDK - it would be funny if it wasn't so serious.

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Aodan wrote:


I read about that one in Sydney too JDK - it would be funny if it wasn't so serious.


I still think it's funny... Stupid people doing stupid things...


So much for 'hey, how's it going'?



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The act itself is amusing, and I'm sure the scenario in a dozen or more comedy films... the fact that he's being charged with rape because of it.... not so funny.

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