Erm, Rick?

NateO · Vice JDK and Man of the People

Erm, Rick?

bonniepirateanne · Date: Feb 10, 2006

i wish we british understood your strange american sporting world so that we could suitably comment

words like 'NHL' and 'hockey' .. what do they mean??

NateO · Vice JDK and Man of the People

Americans can't play hockey, well, they're getting better, but this is a Canadian game.

Yet is odd how the British can't follow the sport, most of Europe enjoys the game, and even Japan fielded a team at Nagano.

http://www.torino2006.org/ENG/IDF/ATH/X01_IH_1.html

Simple game, mate:

http://www.torino2006.org/ENG/OlympicGames/sport_ed_atleti/hockey.html

Stick, puck, skates. Strength, stamina, power.
Two goals, one referee and two linesmen, an ice rink that the puck never leaves.
The fast rhythm, the physical contact playing an integral part of the game and passionate fans urging the players on.
Then, an emotional release, the oldest shout in the world: goal!

Welcome to the hockey world.

-- Edited by NateO at 17:52, 2006-02-10

sha76jam · Cpt Acorn Short of An Oaktree

You see, we are generally lacking in ice!

So, if you call ice-hockey hockey, what do you call normal hockey (played on a pitch)?

ddvmor · **I am the Jammie King!**

NateO wrote:

Yet is odd how the British can't follow the sport, most of Europe enjoys the game, and even Japan fielded a team at Nagano.

Hmm. It's also odd that the Americans don't follow football or cricket, even though most of the world enjoys the game. Even Japan fields football and cricket teams...

bonniepirateanne · Date: Feb 11, 2006

ddvmor wrote:

NateO wrote:
Yet is odd how the British can't follow the sport, most of Europe enjoys the game, and even Japan fielded a team at Nagano.
Hmm. It's also odd that the Americans don't follow football or cricket, even though most of the world enjoys the game. Even Japan fields football and cricket teams...

hehe

awesomely cool Sharon wrote:

So, if you call ice-hockey hockey, what do you call normal hockey (played on a pitch)?

i believe they call it 'field hockey'

NateO · Vice JDK and Man of the People

ddvmor wrote:

It's also odd that the Americans don't follow football or cricket, even though most of the world enjoys the game. Even Japan fields football and cricket teams...

Er, I watched the U.S. world cup match some time ago, it seems, and they certainly field a team. And, my old high school (in Canada) had a cricket team.

Quite right, Kate-mate, in both Canada and the U.S., it's referred to as 'field hockey'.

I've played it before, no back-handing the ball.

It's generally reserved for girls.

NateO · Vice JDK and Man of the People

In fact, I lettered playing soccer in High School, it was my preferred sport to play, actually.

sha76jam · Cpt Acorn Short of An Oaktree

awesomely cool Sharon wrote

Only just noticed that bit! Why thank-you!

NateO · Vice JDK and Man of the People

Sharon?

Hmmm, thought we might have stumled into a little word filtration... Guess not.

-- Edited by NateO at 18:39, 2006-02-13

Henglegert Rinkerdink · Sorry... I must have the wrong street.

NateO wrote:

In fact, I lettered playing soccer in High School, it was my preferred sport to play, actually.

It's not called soccer, it's called football cos you use your feet, unlike that american football where they use their hands and armour and tanks and stuff.. And for what it's worth I don't like the game much.

Much prefer rugby myself. Like american football but rougher, without the armour and seemingly never ending stoppages.

Baseball is OK, but it's really just rounders.

Hockey is great, like both normal hockey and ice-hockey. Ice hockey for the speed and violence and normal hockey for the rooted to the spot so will not slip while I wrap this round you head violence.

I have no idea what basketball is all about.

There endeth my post, I hope it's been helpful.

JonnyStead · **"I'm Lois!"**

Henglegert Rinkerdink wrote:

Much prefer rugby myself. Like american football but rougher, without the armour and seemingly never ending stoppages.

Yeah the welsh love rugby dont they eh?

Hockey is great,

Isnt normal hockey a little girls sport?

BrianS · Still Number One

Will the Brits ever stop ragging on (American) Football? It is a completely different game than rugby. There are stoppages because the flow of the game is different. Plays are executed sequentially as the offence makes forward progress down the field. It isn't about everyone going every which way like rugby and (Un-American) Football.

NateO · Vice JDK and Man of the People

When Americans claim Rugby to be superior? Never.

Part of the confusion with American Football, is that is was partially born out of soccer, hence the name:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_football#Development_of_the_game

The game is more violent than Rugby, which leads us to this fact:

Injuries are more common in American football than in many other sports, although rule changes made in the past 90 years (for instance, the elimination of "horse-collar tackles") have gradually lowered the rates of injuries.

This is pretty much because the players line up at scrimmage instead of scrumming:

In 1880 Walter Camp introduced the scrimmage in place of the rugby scrum. In 1882 the system of downs was introduced to thwart Princeton's and Yale's strategy of controlling the ball without trying to score.

Because of this, there's a lot more [head-on] speed involved, and the players are generally much larger and faster, as millions of dollars command that type of athleticsm:

American football is a collision sport. To stop the offense from advancing the ball, the defense must tackle the player with the ball by knocking him down. As such, defensive players must use some form of physical contact to bring the ball-carrier to the ground, within certain rules and guidelines. Tacklers cannot kick, punch or trip the runner. They also cannot grab the face mask of the runner's helmet, lead into a tackle with their own helmet, or lift the ball carrier up off his feet and drop him. Despite these and other rules regarding unnecessary roughness, most other forms of tackling are legal. Blockers and defenders trying to evade them also have wide leeway in trying to force their opponents out of the way. Quarterbacks are regularly hit by defenders coming on full speed from outside the quarterback's field of vision.

The high level of physical contact in football makes it more dangerous than other major American team sports. To compensate for this, players must wear a good deal of special protective equipment, such as a padded plastic helmet, shoulder pads, hip pads and knee pads. These protective "paddings" were introduced decades ago and improved ever since to help minimize lasting injury to players.

Despite protective equipment and rule changes to emphasize safety, injuries remain very common in football, due to its physical nature. Twenty-five football players, mostly high schoolers, died from injuries directly related to football from 2000-2004, according to the National Center for Catastrophic Sport Injury Research.

Rugby's rough, no doubt about it. But certainly not rougher.

Now, no doubt that Soccer is more commonly known as Football in the UK, and perhaps anywhere outside of Canada and the U.S.

But, having only been outside of these two countries for 1 week of my 29 years to-date, and having grown up playing the sport, I still refer to it as Soccer, as doing my fellow citizens, and it's not really wrong. Some peopler refer to pocket-billiards as 'pool', while clearly there's no swimming involved. Who cares?

The explanation of the naming construct is discussed, somewhat, here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soccer

No, Stead. Normal [ice] Hockey is a Man's-man game. Field hockey is generally reserved for young women.

-- Edited by NateO at 18:58, 2006-02-14

NateO · Vice JDK and Man of the People

sha76jam wrote:

You see, we are generally lacking in ice!

Question, does the UK field a team at the Winter Olympics, then? Do you watch them?

ddvmor · **I am the Jammie King!**

Yes. Especially the bit where Jeremy Clarkson sent a mini down the slopes...

NateO · Vice JDK and Man of the People

Ah ha! They are fielding some participants:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Britain_and_Northern_Ireland_at_the_2006_Winter_Olympics

http://www.boa.org.uk/

Erm, Sharon, all of these sports require snow and ice. Curling and skating requiring ice.

Henglegert Rinkerdink · Sorry... I must have the wrong street.

Erm, Brian, Nate ... clearly my sarcasm control isn't working properly. No offense intended, didn't think anyone would get that upset by it TBH.

FWIW, I'm welsh so I also take the urine out of the English, possibly more mercilessly than the americans.

Simple fact is I don't understand American Football so I mock it. It's low, it's childish, it's unfounded but hey ... feel free to mock in return.

ddvmor · **I am the Jammie King!**

Heh heh heh. It's in the rules, Heng. As a member of the JDBB you MUST incite inter-continental intolerance as often as possible!

JonnyStead · **"I'm Lois!"**

Yeah ya sheep shagger -

And besides you have little people living in your beard...

BTW when we gonna get measurements on the beardy eh?

Fa la la

Henglegert Rinkerdink · Sorry... I must have the wrong street.

JonnyStead wrote:

BTW when we gonna get measurements on the beardy eh? Fa la la

Currently for inches from chin to wisps.

And I don't shag no sheep fool ... I use treats to make them bl.... toooooooomuchinformaaaaaaaashunah

NateO · Vice JDK and Man of the People

What, me worry?

ddvmor · **I am the Jammie King!**

Henglegert Rinkerdink wrote:

And I don't shag no sheep fool ... I use treats to make them bl.... toooooooomuchinformaaaaaaaashunah

Hmm. Was this you, then?