Missing the point?

NateO · Vice JDK and Man of the People

RE: Missing the point?

JonnyStead · **"I'm Lois!"**

She blew you off?

NateO · Vice JDK and Man of the People

Yep. One and done! Too smokey!

Next!!

bonniepirateanne · Date: Jan 24, 2006

maybe you should quit?

NateO · Vice JDK and Man of the People

bonniepirateanne wrote:

maybe you should quit?

Too late I'm afraid, she beat me to the punch!

I am tinkering with the notion of not smoking anymore, though.

-- Edited by NateO at 20:26, 2006-01-24

bonniepirateanne · Date: Jan 24, 2006

NateO wrote:

bonniepirateanne wrote:
maybe you should quit?

Too late I'm afraid, she beat me to the punch!
I tinkering with the notion of not smoking anymore, though.

er... i was referring to the smoking..

NateO · Vice JDK and Man of the People

Oh.

Yes, well, I am considering that.

Susan · Tickle me, Elmo! I'm Roger Moore's Stunt Double!

Good plan Mr O. Just think of all that spare cash you could spend on...er...booze?

NateO · Vice JDK and Man of the People

Susan wrote:

Good plan Mr O. Just think of all that spare cash you could spend on...er...booze?

Hey good point there, Suey-mate, I guess the glass is more than half-full!!

So, I'm going through a weaning process, as going cold-turkey sounds physically traumatizing, as noted here:

http://www.tfy.drugsense.org/tfy/addictvn.htm

So, I would normally smoke around 20 cigarettes/day. For seven days, starting today, I intend to smoke no more than 15 cigarettes/day. The next week, 10 cigarettes/day. The next week, 5/cigarettes day. The week after, maybe 1/day or none, pending... After that, gonzo!!

BrianS · Still Number One

I like the "Uncle Buck" five-year plan

I stopped smoking cigarettes.
Isn't that something?

I'm on to cigars.
I'm on a five-year plan.

I eliminated cigarettes,
then I go to cigars, then to pipes...

then to chewing tobacco,
then the nicotine gum.

Susan · Tickle me, Elmo! I'm Roger Moore's Stunt Double!

And by the time you've tried all those, there'll be a new socially acceptable way to take the drug

bonniepirateanne · Date: Jan 24, 2006

hehe

good plan sir

NateO · Vice JDK and Man of the People

I thank you.

NateO · Vice JDK and Man of the People

This is working!

Day 1: 15 cigs. Day 2: 11 cigs. Day 3: Not sure yet, but so far, so good.

Doesn't sound like much, I know, but Monday it was more like 25.

Weaning away!!

bonniepirateanne · Date: Jan 26, 2006

wow, quicker than expected! you are surely superman

NateO · Vice JDK and Man of the People

bonniepirateanne wrote:

wow, quicker than expected! you are surely superman

Well, that might be a stretch, but I have a nice pace going today as well, much like yesterday.

Might have ourselves a real weaner here!!

ddvmor · **I am the Jammie King!**

Dude... you gotta read the book. Then you won't need any of this weaning nonsense!

I know exactly one million people who have read it, now and none of them have failed...

-- Edited by ddvmor at 22:07, 2006-01-26

NateO · Vice JDK and Man of the People

You know one million people?!

No dude, I'm weaning... I'm continuing with the Nate Oliver weaning programme, thank you.

ddvmor · **I am the Jammie King!**

Well... if you're sure. Only I know that the weaning can chafe a little...

NateO · Vice JDK and Man of the People

Chafe?

You're kind of fubar anyway... The only way to quit smoking is to quit nicotine, period. There is a chemical response, it's strongest around day-3, then your brain realizes that something is missing and compensates...

This is because it takes three days for you to flush nicotine, I'm on day three of my weaning and I notice it, but tomorrow will be better. The trick is, as you drop off, is to survive day-3 when your reservoir is gone, then you're in like Flynn as the body will compensate, somewhat.

The other trick is to take is easy on coffee, as mentioned in point #2, here:
http://kellenheller.blogspot.com/2005/11/two-little-known-facts-about-nicotine.html

I drink absurd amounts of coffee...

Heh, I see Joel doesn't seem to agree with me:

http://whyquit.com/joel/Joel_01_13_gradual_withdrawal.html

I'll show him.

ddvmor · **I am the Jammie King!**

heh. Joel is absolutely right dude. It'll do you no good at all. Even cold turkey will be shite, though - although you'll get a far better and quicker result. The book on the other hand will bypass all the nasty stuff. I know this to be true. Ask Stead.

NateO · Vice JDK and Man of the People

He might be for most, but not for me. Yesterday, 12 cigarettes. Keep in mind I would normally smoke ~25 smokes per day when I think about it, so I'm already running at half-dosage and not really hurting too bad. In fact, I feel pretty good. I'm not waking up quite as groggy and I'm more attentive, even with just scaling back...

I think he might be right about the 1-cig a day drop for someone who smokes 40 cigarettes a day, that takes a long time, and your body never really settles on a consistent dose, because, there's no consistency.

My attack is quite different, in fact. Three consistent, substantial, yet manageable cuts, where I give my body three chances to adjust to new intake levels. I believe in doing so that my physical addiction problems will be minimized and this gives me the greatest chance for success.

Book or not, there is a physical dependency, and I have no chance of success, I just don't, with going cold turkey. The other reason this works for me, is that it allows me some time to become very disciplined about when and how much I smoke, something I have never been, while I'm not in physical anguish, gettting in this habbit will serve me well.

Go the weaner!!!.

NateO · Vice JDK and Man of the People

Maybe you're missing the point, dude?

sha76jam · Cpt Acorn Short of An Oaktree

Ooh, fingers crossed for you Nate, hope it works.

ddvmor · **I am the Jammie King!**

I frequently miss the point.

Good luck, anyway, dude. Maybe you should have some money riding on it. You said that makes you play like a pro, why shouldn't it help you quit like a pro!

NateO · Vice JDK and Man of the People

Professional cigarette quitter?

Well, it's like I've always said, better to have loved and lost than listen to 'Lost in Love' by Air Supply.

http://www.gildavis.com/Where_d_It_Come_From_/Let_s_Laff/One-Liners/Groaners/groaners.html