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ddvmor


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Human rights doubt over smoke ban


A joint committee of MPs and peers has questioned whether the government's plans for a smoking ban in England are consistent with human rights laws.


The Health Bill would ban smoking in all enclosed public places except pubs and clubs that do not serve food.

But the Joint Committee on Human Rights is concerned the plans may discriminate against those working in places run by public bodies that permit smoking.


BBC political correspondent Gary O'Donoghue said: "Most of the time the committee questions the fine detail of legislation, but in this case it's casting doubt on a central element of the plans - the exemptions for pubs and clubs that don't serve food - a Labour election manifesto commitment."

The concern centres on the question of discrimination, and whether people working in establishments run by public bodies that permit smoking are being unfairly treated in comparison to those who work elsewhere.

The partial ban plan was put forward by the government after several days of argument within the Cabinet.




Um...  Is it just me, or do the Joint Committee on Human Rights seem to be missing the point here...



 



-- Edited by ddvmor at 09:06, 2006-01-11

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what's your point darren?

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Speaking of pointy-stuff...


I have a blind date coming up, she doesn't smoke, doesn't know I smoke, and I... erm... am smokin'!


Ever heard the song 'When Worlds Collide'?



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She may well not smoke, but you're only in trouble if she's anti-smoke.

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I haven't met many non-smokers who aren't anti-smoke.


I'm in trouble...



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Well, Nate mate, you are the man.  She'll convert her thinking for you.



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NateO wrote:

I haven't met many non-smokers who aren't anti-smoke. I'm in trouble...
Heh.  I'm a non-smoker.  I don't care if you smoke or not.   

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Aww, thanks, Suey-mate. I like your attitude.



ddvmor wrote:


Heh.  I'm a non-smoker.  I don't care if you smoke or not.   



Thanks, dude, but you don't get to sleep with me.



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This is true.


I was simply giving moral support, dude.  It's selfless people like you that put food on the tables of people in the tobacco industry.  Because of you, their children will eat tonight. 



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You know, that's a good point, mate.


The good people of Virginia and the stakeholders in the Altria Group probably owe me a debt of gratitude. I shall plead my case as a philanthropic act, then.



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Use patches for the night until you find out if she is attractive or not... if she's not - whip the smokes out!


 


Easier than escaping through the bathroom window - trust me...



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Stead, you know what?  I like your style.

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What can I say - Im a man of the people...

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Could be good advice, Stead-man!


I got a good feeling about this one, though...



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Aw, that's sweet.  Just be your charming self and she'll fall for you.  Just don't start talking formulae and pivot tables.

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Aw, thanks Suey-mate!


Right, I had a discussion with another friend about this, here's how that went:




NPO: Got a blind date...


K: Is she (assuming it *is* a she, since you don't know who it is and all ) bringing her own seeing eye dog, or do you have to bring that instead of flowers?


NPO: And, we're going to one of the nicest restaurants in the Twin Cities, because I'm a player. So stop trying to rain on my parade!!
 
K: Ah yes, the Nathan Oliver parade. I look forward to it every year. Are you gonna have the Underdog balloon? He's my favorite


NPO: And she likes computer geeks... I've got a good feeling about this one...  
 
K: Oookaaaay, but there's different levels of geek. There's general computer geek, which is what she may be thinking of, then there's Nate-level computer geeks...



While I won't be talking about spreadsheets, not at any level of detail, that's the lightweight stuff. When you get into serious trouble is when you start getting into Byte Arrays/digitizing and slamming the Windows heap by reallocating BSTRs via concatenation, etc... Good stuff!


The real trick, I find is to get them talking, just ask questions and keep up. Doesn't get much easier, and the added bonus is that now you're a 'good listener'!



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Looks like your friend and I think on the same wavelength!


When's the big day?



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That would be tonight!

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Wow!


I'm sending you good vibes.  Ommmmmmmmmmmmmm!


Can you feel them?



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Way hey!! Sure do!


Hmmm, might have to talk about overstacking the Windows heap and BSTRs, just a little...



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So was the bag on the head needed dude?

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Oh yes, please do tell...

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Nope no bags required!


Hmmm, maybe I should go into financial forecasting... Or wait, I do do this...


As expected, I recieved double-negative bonus points for my ongoing experimentation with tobacco. But other than that, this went pretty well, I thought. Well, I generally have a good time, either way, and this was no exception!


Here's a pic of Tracy and I at W.A. Frost's in St. Paul (recommended) from last night:



 


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Oh, I did manage to leave out the bit about the Windows Heap and BSTRs.

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Judging by the mug on the table it's post-meal and you're both still smiling.  Can't have been bad.  I think you need to thank whoever it was that got you the date.


Score:  10/10



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i count five lamps in that picture - what kind of a crazy lamp place was this?

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Yep, that was taken as we were leaving. We were seated at 7:00 pm and didn't end up leaving until 9:30 pm!


Me ol' mucker, AOK made this one happen, it's his fiance's good friend, and I can see why, she's good people. We ended up going to another spot I know after and ended up talking until 1:15 am or so.


AOK's been thanked, in fact, he might have earned himself a seat at the head table for that one!!


bonniepirateanne, yes many, many lamps and paintings, etc... It's this kind of crazy lamp place:


http://twincities.citysearch.com/profile/5518849


Good stuff right there, mate!



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And you both clearly have demon eyes - which is nice...


 


Seriously though Nate - nice going - but dont get too serious with her - I'm living a fun and varied sex life vicariously through you!



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Way to go Stead.

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No worries Stead, if there's one thing I'm good at, it's pushing my luck, I'll bungle this up one way or another.


That and my Vegas trip is still on!



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