Spiderman 3 Villan

BrianS · Still Number One

Spiderman 3 Villan

NateO · Vice JDK and Man of the People

No clue, mate.

ddvmor · **I am the Jammie King!**

I read something last week. I'll try to find it when I got home, but my guess is the Sandman dude and - based on the end of the last one - Hobgoblin (is that right? Or does Harry Osbourne just become Green Goblin - I'm not a Spidey expert).

BrianS · Still Number One

Harry become the "Green Goblin 2". Hobgoblin is different, he was basically just a contract thug that OsCorp hired and gave their weapons to. Yeah sandman makes sense. I was just trying to think of villans that were skinny like Topher, none really came to mind other than I guess Sandman, he can look like anything.

ddvmor · **I am the Jammie King!**

Maybe what'll actually happen is that he'll trip over The Fantastic Four whilst chasing the X-Men through downtown New York only to find himself in Hells Kitchen being beat up on by Daredevil...

Don't really know much about Sandman - apart from the whole turning to sand thing. As I said I'm not big on Spidey history - what I know comes mostly from the Ultimate comics.

Now Neil Gaiman's Sandman is a different story. I know loads about him!

And the Golden Age Sandman that Vertigo ran a few years back - that was great!

Sketti · Bored Member

Evil Opie?

JonnyStead · **"I'm Lois!"**

2007? seems a long way off - but S'pose its only 2 years...

BrianS · Still Number One

Its Official

Lite · **I'm lite... and I'm fantastic!**

RE: Spiderman 3 Villan

ddvmor · **I am the Jammie King!**

She is pretty cool. Especially with the fishes and the talking dogs and...

But Death is such a hot chick. I have an old t-shirt with Death on somewhere. I should wear it more!

Zem YN3B · Really Bored Matress

Being a little bit of a Marvel comic fan ... Eric Foreman would be just plain weird as Venom. Eddie Brock (Venom) is a major weight-lifting nut, which is why Venom is stronger than Spidey, because the Brock was much stronger than Parker to begin with.

...

None of you care. Never mind.

BrianS · Still Number One

I was kind of thinking the same thing. I don't know if the logic holds up though on why Venon is stronger. Just because Brock was stronger than Parker does not necessarily translate to Venom > Spidey. This would assume that Venom (the symbiot) has the exact same strength augmentation factor as do Spiderman's radioactive spider powers. This has never been established.

ddvmor · **I am the Jammie King!**

Yay! Nerdy geek conversation... I never really read Spidey until the Ultimate version came out, so that's the only version of Venom I'm really familiar with. Since he's only appeared the once and seemed to be pretty easily defeated, I don't really have much to go on... but... didn't the symbiote attach itself to someone else at one point?

JonnyStead · **"I'm Lois!"**

This is the guy to watch out for - not sure Singer got the Clark Kent look right though

ddvmor · **I am the Jammie King!**

Nice, dude. You so need that as your avatar...

JonnyStead · **"I'm Lois!"**

Make it so fat boy

Zem YN3B · Really Bored Matress

BrianS wrote:

I don't know if the logic holds up though on why Venon is stronger. Just because Brock was stronger than Parker does not necessarily translate to Venom > Spidey. This would assume that Venom (the symbiot) has the exact same strength augmentation factor as do Spiderman's radioactive spider powers.

To continue the geek conversation: here's my understanding of why this works: the symbiot "learned" the spidey powers from using Parker as a host in the first place. Which is the only reason Venom has spidey-like powers in the first place. Therefore, the symbiot's spidey powers are exactly equal to Parker's. Therefore symbiot + Brock > Spidey.

I'm such a geek.

ddvmor · **I am the Jammie King!**

Yes. Yes you are!

So what's the deal with Carnage, then? Is he like Venom... but red?

BrianS · Still Number One

I am not as clear on Carnage, but from what I remember he is an offshoot of Venom (Venom, the symbiot's offspring). Venom was separated from his host (Brock) while Venom was pregnant and gave birth while Venom was breaking Brock out of jail. The OffSpring (Carnage) then bonded with a homicidal maniac.

Here found some history
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/c/carnage.htm

BrianS · Still Number One

Zem, it seems you are right,

http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/v/venom.htm

Known Superhuman Powers: The alien costume, which has grafted itself to the nervous system of Eddie Brock, somehow absorbed the powers of Spider-Man during its brief symbiotic relationship with him. These powers have now been transferred to Brock, so long as he wears the costume. Brock had conditioned himself to lift (press) almost 700 lbs. Before he came into contact with the costume. Once they merged, the costume added Spider-Man’s superhuman strength to Brock’s vast human strength, making him more powerful than Spider-Man.

I stand corrected

You are a bigger geek than me

ddvmor · **I am the Jammie King!**

I was always a Batman fan. Still am. Of course it helped that I worked in a comic shop when I was at university...

Let's take this nerdy geek stuff one step further. What comics did/do you read and do you still read 'em?

BrianS · Still Number One

I was into comics for only a short time reading mostly Spiderman and X-men. Haven't read any for a long time.

ddvmor · **I am the Jammie King!**

I used to read Sandman, Hellblazer and a few other 'mature' comics as well as Batman.

Nowadays, I still read Hellblazer and Batman (although I did stop for a few years) and a handful of Marvel comics - Ulimate Spidey and the Ultimates (aka the Avengers).

You were a geek. I still am!

sha76jam · Cpt Acorn Short of An Oaktree

I have never read a whole comic.

ddvmor · **I am the Jammie King!**

Well that's just silly. You should have finished it. It would have been great. Unless it wasn't. In which case it wouldn't have been.