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Date: Jun 26, 2007
The Greenday Effect


Has anyone else noticed this phenomenon?

It frst came to my attention when Catfish was playing music through her iPod in her car. She has three or four Greenday albums in amongst the 6000 odd songs on there. For no apparent reason, when instructed to play all songs on shuffle - i.e. randomly - every other song is Greenday. Her iPod is obsessed with them. Its not as if there are a disproportionately high number of Greenday tracks on it. She has all of Queen's albums on there and it hardly ever plays them. She has more Offspring than Greenday, yet it isn't Offspring that it plays constantly.

Anyway. I have about 5 Greenday songs on my mp3 player. 5 out of about 700 tracks. And yesterday, on my drive to work, when I set it to play a random selection of all of those tracks in a random order, it played all 5 Greenday tracks!

Anyone else have this problem?

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Ah yes, this is quite an issue for your average iPod user apparently - they say it is because the shuffling is TRULY totally random - I believe they have introduced the feature that you can make it 'less random' which means it purposely doesn't pick the same artist twice in a row..

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Apparently this is a long time talked about problem, so no, you are not alone:

But just about everyone who has an iPod has wondered how random the iPod shuffle function really is. From the day I loaded up my first Pod, it was as if the little devil liked to play favorites. It had a particular fondness for Steely Dan, whose songs always seemed to pop up two or three times in the first hour of play. Other songs seemed to be exiled to a forgotten corner of the disk drive. Months after I bought "Wild Thing" from the iTunes store, I'm still waiting for my iPod to cue it up.

{snip}

"It's part of the magic of shuffle," says Greg Joswiak, the VP for iPod products. Still, I asked him last week to double-check with the engineers. They flatly assured him that "Random is random," and the algorithm that does the shuffling has been tested and verified."

{snip}

Life may indeed be random, and the iPod probably is, too. But we humans will always provide our own narratives and patterns to bring chaos under control. The fault, if there is any, lies not in the shuffle but in ourselves.



- deep. You can read the full article here.

(as far as I can tell, if you played your iPod long enough - without turning it off, all 6000 songs would eventually be played, but it forgets what it has played and 'the random' resets itself every time you turn it off and on)

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Date: Jun 27, 2007

Hmm. I think I've read something along those lines before. I choose to believe, however, that it is a part of some sinister conspiracy against me! biggrin.gif

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You've turned into me! GAH! now I'm even more paranoid!

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