A maths question

sha76jam · Cpt Acorn Short of An Oaktree

A maths question

ddvmor · **I am the Jammie King!**

How about a pencil and paper?

I've not hard of anything, but I shall have a poke around for you...

sha76jam · Cpt Acorn Short of An Oaktree

Not so good on phd!

Hmmm, I've not even done the dyslexic-fingers curse yet...

bonniepirateanne · Date: Mar 31, 2006

i found http://www.venndiagram.tk/ - but i don't know if it'll give you enough cicleys?

sha76jam · Cpt Acorn Short of An Oaktree

Ooh, yes, that's exactly what I'm after, only with more circles!

bonniepirateanne · Date: Mar 31, 2006

that's what i thought. poop..

it seems that www.venndiagram.com would have done it for you, cause everything i found pointed to it, but some lazy sod has let the domain name expire and google doesn't have anything cached! boo

sha76jam · Cpt Acorn Short of An Oaktree

May the curse of the dyslexic fingers be upon them!

bonniepirateanne · Date: Mar 31, 2006

ohh no i tihnk yuo put it onot me!

sha76jam · Cpt Acorn Short of An Oaktree

Wasn't me, there must be someone else with the curse!

NateO · Vice JDK and Man of the People

Check your cross-post:

http://www.utteraccess.com/forums/showflat.php?Number=1144528

Cross-poster!!

bonniepirateanne · Date: Mar 31, 2006

good job on the cross posting really - you got a much more helpful response from over there

sha76jam · Cpt Acorn Short of An Oaktree

Oh, I posted all over! Surely it don't count if it's on multiple forums?

NateO · Vice JDK and Man of the People

It surely does, lass:

http://www.excelguru.ca/XLKBA/XLKBA05.htm

Major faux pas...

Beware the forum cross-poster!!!.

bonniepirateanne · Date: Apr 2, 2006

well that's just one person's opinion.. and i tend to disagree..

if a the same question gets answered on different forums then there's more chance that the next time someone comes along needing the same answer they might find it - the more we share the better the internet will be

i agree with the whole thing of maybe going back and giving links to the answer you've found, but ask ask ask is my moto :)

NateO · Vice JDK and Man of the People

bonniepirateanne wrote:

well that's just one person's opinion.. and i tend to disagree..

It's bloody waste of bandwidth and peoples time.

Didn't care for it here:

http://www.mrexcel.com/board2/viewtopic.php?p=720341#720341

Or elsewhere, unannounced cross-posting is irresponsible and disrespectful. There have numerous times that I have completely wasted my time because of this... At one point, I was going to create a custom title for cross-posters at MrExcel.com, but it got shot down...

Still, I'll verbally flog anyone I catch doing this.

-- Edited by NateO at 22:53, 2006-04-02

ddvmor · **I am the Jammie King!**

I'd love to get involved in this discussion, but I'm a little scared, now. I'll be in the corner, observing...

sha76jam · Cpt Acorn Short of An Oaktree

Well I can't post my Tek-tips UK link here, 'cos you'll all whinge that you can't see it without signing up (which really shouldn't be the case). May I apologise to Bekibutton, who I believe is the only other person signed up to all three places. However, I have been keeping that & my UA thread (which everyone here seems to be looking at) up to date on what I've been doing. Personally I agree with Katie anyhow, and indeed I have had people thanking me for (suitably credited) solutions which I have posted back from just such a scenario.

Guess we ain't going to agree. Have a

NateO · Vice JDK and Man of the People

You want to cross-post? Fine.

But if I catch you doing it in my forums, you're going to catch an ear-load, e.g.,

http://www.mrexcel.com/board2/viewtopic.php?t=150569

I was holding back on that one... I absolutely cannot stand other people completely wasting my time... People who consistently waste my time, are obviously much worse...

I'd much rather come here and crack a wisenheimer, or something, than spend minute-1 answering a question that was answered 4 days ago...

ddvmor · **I am the Jammie King!**

Can I join in now? This looks like fun!

Crossposting doesn't count here cos it one of the rules. Cross-posting and thread hijacking are fine old JDBB traditions and are positively encouraged, oh yes. Elsewhere, is a different matter and it's entirely up to the guys who run the forums whether it's ok! (Personally, I think it's fine to cross-post unless it's a Tuesday. Or a Thursday. Something about days beginning with T's. Come to think about it, most of my days begin with tea. Sometimes two.

Mmmmm... tea...)

Er...

Anyway, children. Please refrain from any bloodshed, please! It's so hard to get the stains out of the carpet!

The King has spoken. Put your hand up if you listened!

-- Edited by ddvmor at 20:58, 2006-04-03

NateO · Vice JDK and Man of the People

What was that, dude?

I'm not very concerned about it in this instance... But there have been cases where I spent a fair amount of time trying to help someone with something complicated, only to find that someone else posted the same answer, somewhere else, before I even started to attempt the OP!! That's a call to arms, right there!

sha76jam · Cpt Acorn Short of An Oaktree

OK, so before I say anything else I hereby solemnly declare I shall make no undeclared cross-posts on Mr Excel!

The way I post tends to depend on the problem.
In this case it was a "Does anybody know of...?" type of a question, which I'm expecting to lead to short, knowledge based, replies, such as "I use xxx" or "I looked for something similar a while back & didn't find anything out there" (you may berate me if that didn't come across properly in my post). Therefore I don't see posting across boards as a problem, and on that one we shall have to agree to differ.
I guess it's not something I've really thought about before 'cos I tend to use different boards for different problems. I guess the only other times I'd cross-post would be a) if no-one on my chosen bored had been able to help me after a couple of days or b) if I had a total panic on & was clutching any straw I could get. I see your point however & shall try to remember to always put in links in the future!

PS I've always stated if I've cross-posted on different forums on the same board (occasionally a problem does truly belong in both) & I do update different posts with any solutions - I'm not all bad!

PPS Surely the point of friends (virtual or otherwise) is to be able to have a good fight without falling out, I have no intention of staining the carpet, but I do like a good constructive argument!

ddvmor · **I am the Jammie King!**

sha76jam wrote:

I'm not all bad!

That's not what I've heard...

sha76jam · Cpt Acorn Short of An Oaktree

NateO · Vice JDK and Man of the People

sha76jam wrote:

In this case it was a "Does anybody know of...?" type of a question, which I'm expecting to lead to short, knowledge based, replies, such as "I use xxx" or "I looked for something similar a while back & didn't find anything out there" (you may berate me if that didn't come across properly in my post).

Well, to be fair, if one is just looking for a high-level anecdotal response, then I might agree, just opinion gathering... Although, I still might wonder if those opinions might be refined if they were consolidated, one way or another, for a common review? And shame on me for spending too long working up a detailed response, I guess...

One of the reasons I tend to post detailed, tested technical replies is that I typically field technical situation-specific questions... And when you explain something at a high-level, often times your advice is either ignored or bastardized...

Take the following:

http://www.utteraccess.com/forums/showflat.php?Number=1146152&fpart=4.5

Not way off, I did say use ADO and GetRows(). But that's not really that close to how I would do that, as you can see by my detailed response that follows... And I don't really want other people to see the way he did that and think, 'that's how Nate would do that?'

Because it's not... Helping others, quite a quandary...

Yep, I'm an A-type with this stuff!!

-- Edited by NateO at 15:58, 2006-04-04

ddvmor · **I am the Jammie King!**

NateO wrote:

Yep, I'm an A-type with this stuff!! :wink

We so need a smiley to illustrate this...

sha76jam · Cpt Acorn Short of An Oaktree

Boy does your love of Excel shine through!

Seriously though, unless it's something that I'm trying to get my head round anyway (eg posted much code on manipulating Outlook for Access quite a while back), then there's no way I'm going to put that much work into someone else's problem if they don't appear to be putting the effort in themselves, I would view it differently if they were obviously working at it and trying to learn. That's not a criticism of you, I admire you for putting that much into it, just not something I would do. I tend to prefer the type of responses you started posting in that thread in answer to my own queries too, I learn far more if I'm just given pointers.

(To be honest I'm not doing much in the way of new technical stuff at the moment, so I'm not posting on technical boards at all really, this is a little bit historical/theoretical for me at the mo)

bonniepirateanne · Date: Apr 5, 2006

i love caramel digestives.

oops! i think i cross-posted from the CDBB

sha76jam · Cpt Acorn Short of An Oaktree

Mmmmmmmmmm, caramel digestives! I chain-ate a whole packet on Monday!

ddvmor · **I am the Jammie King!**

I had a packet of lime jaffa cakes. I say 'had'. Past tense.

bonniepirateanne · Date: Apr 5, 2006

i'm trying not to eat biscuits these days, in an attemp to shift the 'i just got married' poundage that has accumulated around my stomach area

so when nice people come round to visit, they get a cup of tea and an apple, i'm not sure it went down that well with the sky man earlier

also to help remove the poundage.. we just got some new dance mats.. arcade style metal ones heh heh, ohh i should have gotten 100 on that geek quiz