The following Dodgers have been smited by the JDK for their crimes against Jam:
All the girls! for picking on the JDK and damaging his already delicate self esteem!
The Basserd Who Nicked Copper's Stuff For the offense of nicking Copper's stuff. You are a tw*t, whoever you are and we all hope you get run over by a tram in Nottingham. Or Liverpool. Or whereever else they have trams!
Copper For the crime of playing with her Wii instead of her Jammie pals!
I would say that if the door has time to close fully a few seconds before the subject arrives at it than courtesy has been satisfied.
Other factors, such as your state of mind, the gender, age and seniority of the subject also come into play in varying degrees. Also one should consider if a perdon 'outside the zone' is making an effort to get to the door quickly in an attempt to reduce your inconvenience, or if they just continue to dawdle down the corridor leaving you standing by the door like a lemon.
Obviously if one wants to be considered a master of doorway etiquette, one will hold the door no matter the distance.
This is a tricky subject, and one that warrants a full enquiry.
quote: Originally posted by: "Glad I don't fall into category F there!"
see darren - the 'door-opener' would simply be playing a joke on you and quite obviously, with a little hope, skip and a jump your foot would be in the door before it had time to shut - as for the disliked people, with 1m to go, they might have to stretch, risking the chance of falling over resulting in ridicule from all those in the vacinity
You are making some great assumptions about my nimbleness there, but since I think you're covering up and trying to turn a veiled insult into some sort of compliment I'll let you off...
I was researching the subject of holding doors and found the attached which is reasonably amusing:
Victorian Era Etiquette
A lady should always walk in an easy, unassuming manner, neither looking left nor right. If anything in a store window attracts her attention, she may stop and examine it, and then continue her walk.
A lady does not giggle or whisper in public. Talking loudly is "inexcusable" at all times and gives a vulgar tone to all that is said. She does not call her friends across the street or ask of their health in a boisterous manner.
Never "cut" a person in public. If there are reasons you wish to discontinue the aquaintance turn your head before meeting. Do not expose anyone to the humiliation of a cold and rude stare or refuse to return the greeting of one made in the presence of others.
When bowing on the street, the lady should merely incline her head gracefully, never her body. She should also smile pleasantly.
She must never let a male talk to her in a slangy manner, touch her on the shoulder or call her by her first name in front of strangers.
Gentlemen:
"A gentlemen never swaggers along the street, shouting or laughing with his companions, his hat on one side, a cigar between his fingers, or switching a cane to the danger or discomfort of passers-by."
If he's smoking and a lady passes by, he removes the cigar from his mouth.
When escorting a woman in the daytime, he does not offer her his arm unless she is old or ill unless for the purpose of protecting her in a large crowd.
He should not monopolize the umbrella when with two ladies in the rain. He should take the outside, holding it both over them.
If attending a lady in the evening he should offer his arm. If he has the care of two ladies, he should give his arm to one and the ladies should walk on the same side of him.
When entering a room with ladies, he removes his hat. When he meets a lady friend, he should raise his hat gracefully.
A gentleman holds the door open for a lady. He precedes the lady in ascending the stairs and allows her to precede in descending them.
"When a gentleman meets a lady friend with whom he wishes to converse, he does not make her stand on the street, but walks with her a short distance until he has said what he desired to, and then leaves her with a courteous bow."
When on the street, the gentleman should always carry the packages....and the husband should always carry the baby.
He should never smoke where ladies are present under any circumstances.
Do not shake a ladies hand in a manner that would annoy her or hurt her fingers. When a guest in someone's house, do not order the servant to wait upon you, or ask questions of either children or help, find fault in any service or make comments on the children's behaviour.
Always be on time.
"Do not laugh at your own wit, allow others to do it."
Accompany your wife to the church of her choice.
If a marriage engagement is broken, it should be done by letter. The reasons can be given more clearly than in person. All presents, letters, etc, should accompany the letter.
During a walk in the country, climbing a hill or walking along a stream, if the lady is tired and sits upon the ground, do not seat yourself next to her. Remain standing until she is rested.
When friends come to call on you, don't look at your watch, lest they think you desire them to leave.
NEVER pick the teeth, scratch the head, blow the nose or clean your nails in company.
Never correct a person publicly.
The hostess does not leave the room while visitors remain.
A lady can call on a gentleman in his room ONLY if he is a confirmed invalid.
Do not laugh at funny things being said until the climax is reached.
Do not go into public smelling of onions or garlic.
Do not eat all on your plate, nor clean it up with your bread.
"A lady at a ball should not burden a gentleman with her gloves, fan, and bouquet to hold while she dances unless he is her husband or brother."
Do not place your arm on the back of a chair occupied by a woman.
"It is not polite at a wedding to congratulate the bride. She should recieve wishes for her future happiness. The bridegroom in the one who is to be congratulated; he is the fortunate one."
A husband and wife should not play cards together, nor should two persons be partners in every game.
quote: Originally posted by: "While I am ever courteous to women, I don't know anyone that goes to those extremes "
I'm glad I came up with this one now - I have certainly learnt alot today - and Darren on more than one occasion you have offered me your arm - even when escorting me during the day! tish tish!
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